Fiat 850 (1964-73)

COMMON FAULTS
Please Note: Common Faults in Regularly Used Vehicles vs. Low-Mileage Stored Vehicles that have been used consistently over many years, accumulating approximately 10,000–12,000 miles annually, are more prone to common faults due to regular wear and tear. These issues typically arise from the natural aging of components subjected to frequent use, such as engine parts, suspension systems, brakes, and tires. In contrast, vehicles with low mileage that have been stored or preserved are likely to experience different types of issues. These vehicles are often better maintained to ensure their longevity and may avoid some of the typical wear-and-tear problems seen in regularly driven cars. However, they can still face unique challenges such as degradation of rubber seals, corrosion from prolonged inactivity, or fuel system issues caused by old or stagnant fuel

Common faults with the **Fiat 850** include:

1. **Rust**: The Fiat 850 was prone to rust, especially due to the use of poor-grade steel. Exposure to saltwater during shipping exacerbated this issue.

2. **Fuel System Issues**: Look out for problems related to the fuel supply. Check the fuel pump, filters, and carburettor for dirt or blockages.

3. **Cold Starting Difficulty**: Starting the Fiat 850 in cold weather can be challenging. Ensure the choke flap is fully closing when engaged.
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Generations/Trim Levels
The **Fiat 850** was produced in **two generations**. The **first generation**, introduced in **1964**, included the saloon model. A year later, in **1965**, the **second generation** brought us the **Fiat 850 Coupé** and the **Fiat 850 Spider**.
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Body Styles/Variants
The **Fiat 850** had several variants, each with distinct features:

1. **Fiat 850 Normale**: The standard version with 34 hp (25 kW) and engine code 100G.000.
2. **Fiat 850 Super**: A more powerful version with 37 hp (27 kW) and engine code 100G.002.
3. **Fiat 850 Special**: A revised sedan launched in 1968, sharing the 47 hp (35 kW) engine of the 850 Coupé. It offered front disc brakes and improved trim.
4. **Fiat 850 Familiare**: A boxier successor to the Fiat 600 Multipla, featuring space for seven passengers in three rows. It continued in production until 1976.
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Engines
The Fiat 850 featured engines based on the Fiat 600's design but with increased capacity:

- The standard version, known as "normale," had an engine capacity of **843 cc** with **34 hp (25 kW)** and engine code **100G.000**.
- The "super" version had a slightly more powerful engine with **37 hp (27 kW)** and engine code **100G.002**.

These engines allowed the Fiat 850 to reach a maximum speed of approximately **125 km/h (78 mph)**¹.
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Performance
The Fiat 850, produced between 1964 and 1973, offered modest performance suitable for its class. Here are some key performance figures:

- **Engine Options**:
- 843 cc Inline-4: 34 horsepower
- 903 cc Inline-4 (Sport Coupé): 52 horsepower

- **Top Speed**:
- Standard: Approximately 75 mph (121 km/h)
- Sport Coupé: Approximately 90 mph (145 km/h)

- **Acceleration (0-60 mph / 0-100 km/h)**:
- Standard: Around 18 seconds
- Sport Coupé: Around 16 seconds

- **Fuel Economy**:
- Approximately 33.6 mpg (7 L/100 km)

These figures made the Fiat 850 a practical and economical choice for everyday driving, with the Sport Coupé offering a bit more performance for enthusiasts.
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Designer/Dimensions
The Fiat 850 was designed by Dante Giacosa for the saloon version, Felice Mario Boano and Gian Paolo Boano at Centro Stile Fiat for the Coupé, and Giorgetto Giugiaro at Bertone for the Spider.

### Dimensions:
- **Wheelbase**: 2,027 mm (79.8 inches)
- **Length**:
- Saloon: 3,575 mm (140.7 inches)
- Coupé: 3,652 mm (143.8 inches)
- Spider: 3,782 mm (148.9 inches)
- Familiare: 3,735 mm (147.0 inches)
- **Width**:
- Saloon: 1,425 mm (56.1 inches)
- Spider: 1,498 mm (59.0 inches)
- Coupé, Familiare: 1,500 mm (59.1 inches)
- **Height**:
- Saloon: 1,385 mm (54.5 inches)
- Coupé: 1,300 mm (51.2 inches)
- Spider: 1,220 mm (48.0 inches)
- Familiare: 1,655 mm (65.2 inches)
- **Curb Weight**:
- Saloon: 670 kg (1,477 lbs)
- Coupé: 720 kg (1,587 lbs)
- Spider: 725 kg (1,598 lbs)
- Familiare: 900 kg (1,984 lbs)

These dimensions contributed to the Fiat 850's versatility and appeal across different body styles.
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Spares/Specialists
If you're looking for **Fiat 850** spares in the United Kingdom and Ireland, here are some options:

1. **Arnold Classic Shop**: They offer an extensive selection of spare parts for your **Fiat 850** and other Fiat classic cars. Their range includes both original parts and high-quality replica parts. You can find products like brake callipers, carpets, seat belts, distributor fingers, and more to keep your Fiat in top condition.

2. **FD Ricambi**: At FD Ricambi, you can easily order parts for your vintage **Fiat 850** online. If you cannot find the part you're looking for or need advice, their product specialists can assist you.

3. **EU-SPARES**: The **EU-SPARES** shop offers OE branded parts for the **Fiat 850**. You can buy inexpensive parts online, and they provide free delivery for orders over £140.

4. **AUTODOC**: In the AUTODOC online catalogue, you'll find a great assortment of first-class and inexpensive parts for the **Fiat 850** from leading manufacturers.
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Specialists
There are several garage services in Northern Ireland that can help maintain your Fiat 850. Here are a few options:

### Commons Brae Garage
- **Location**: 188 Saintfield Road, Belfast
- **Phone**: 028 9543 8739
- **Services**: Trusted car repair establishment.

### SERE Motors
- **Location**: Belfast and Lisburn
- **Services**: Specializes in servicing and maintaining all Fiat models, including older ones.

### ClickMechanic
- **Services**: Offers Fiat repairs in Northern Ireland with a network of vetted and qualified mechanics.

These garages should be able to provide the necessary maintenance and repairs for your Fiat 850.
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Racing
The Fiat 850 did compete in racing! Despite its modest performance, it was quite popular in various motorsport events. Here are a few highlights:

### Fiat 850 Coupé and Spider
- **Homologation**: The Fiat 850 Coupé and Spider were homologated for racing in Group T and Group GT, respectively.
- **Racing History**: These models participated in various racing events, including hill climbs and circuit races.

### Abarth 850 TC
- **Abarth Tuning**: Carlo Abarth, a famous Italian car tuner, created high-performance versions of the Fiat 850, known as the Abarth 850 TC. These cars were equipped with more powerful engines and enhanced performance parts, making them competitive in racing.

### Historic Racing
- **Classic Car Events**: Today, vintage Fiat 850s, including the Abarth versions, are often seen in classic car races and rallies. They continue to be a favourite among enthusiasts for their charm and racing heritage.

The Fiat 850's racing history adds to its legacy as a beloved and iconic car.
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Valuation
The value of a 1964 Fiat 850 today can vary depending on its condition, originality, and any restoration work that has been done. Generally, you can expect prices to range from **£2,500 to £21,000**. Prices can be higher for models in exceptional condition or with unique features.
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Clubs
There are clubs in both Northern Ireland and Ireland that cater to Fiat 850 enthusiasts. Here are a few options:

### Northern Ireland:
1. **[Northern Ireland Italian Motor Club](https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/northern-ireland-italian-motor-club.134596/):** This club welcomes all Italian vehicles, including Fiats. They have regular meet-ups and events.
2. **[NIIMC](http://www.niimc.com/?page_id=724):** Another great club for Italian car enthusiasts, including Fiat 850 owners. They organize various events and gatherings.

### Ireland:
1. **[Classic Fiat Ireland](https://classicfiatireland.com/):** This club is dedicated to classic Fiat enthusiasts and organizes events and meet-ups throughout Ireland.

These clubs and communities can provide valuable resources, support, and connections with other Fiat enthusiasts.
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